Comments on: Article Response: The iPhone does not have web 2.0 support http://www.techcraver.com/2007/07/09/article-response-the-iphone-does-not-have-web-20-support/ Craving tech, craving life! Wed, 19 Nov 2008 11:58:41 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Christopher Jewett http://www.techcraver.com/2007/07/09/article-response-the-iphone-does-not-have-web-20-support/#comment-381 Christopher Jewett Thu, 19 Jul 2007 19:06:00 +0000 http://www.techcraver.com/2007/07/09/article-response-the-iphone-does-not-have-web-20-support/#comment-381 Personally, I take the "Web 2.0" concept to mean a shift in development from static content to active content. Rather than static HTML pages, we've shifted to the use of XML for RSS feeds and AJAX, shifted to server side databases on a much broader scale, shifted to AJAX for active content and much more operating system application type interaction, shifted to the use of CSS for consistent styling. I disagree that Java is irrelevant, however. In some ways, Java is more relevant than ever, with many full fledged large applications being developed in Java (Azureus for instance). However, I think of Java less as the web programming interface it set out to be, and more as a replacement for desktop application code written in C and C++, which, while still important, seems to have an ever shrinking developer base. For the web, if it can be done through AJAX, and avoid Java's more advanced features, it's simply a better, faster, more usable experience. However, Java still has its place. Personally, I take the “Web 2.0″ concept to mean a shift in development from static content to active content. Rather than static HTML pages, we’ve shifted to the use of XML for RSS feeds and AJAX, shifted to server side databases on a much broader scale, shifted to AJAX for active content and much more operating system application type interaction, shifted to the use of CSS for consistent styling. I disagree that Java is irrelevant, however. In some ways, Java is more relevant than ever, with many full fledged large applications being developed in Java (Azureus for instance). However, I think of Java less as the web programming interface it set out to be, and more as a replacement for desktop application code written in C and C++, which, while still important, seems to have an ever shrinking developer base. For the web, if it can be done through AJAX, and avoid Java’s more advanced features, it’s simply a better, faster, more usable experience. However, Java still has its place.

]]> By: jason http://www.techcraver.com/2007/07/09/article-response-the-iphone-does-not-have-web-20-support/#comment-362 jason Mon, 09 Jul 2007 18:18:22 +0000 http://www.techcraver.com/2007/07/09/article-response-the-iphone-does-not-have-web-20-support/#comment-362 Yes that is my point. I would like to ask the author of the article what his definition of web 2.0 is. I agree with you that the iPhone is the first to have a full fledged and mostly useful browser. Very very cool! Yes that is my point. I would like to ask the author of the article what his definition of web 2.0 is.

I agree with you that the iPhone is the first to have a full fledged and mostly useful browser. Very very cool!

]]> By: Josh Bancroft http://www.techcraver.com/2007/07/09/article-response-the-iphone-does-not-have-web-20-support/#comment-359 Josh Bancroft Mon, 09 Jul 2007 17:22:46 +0000 http://www.techcraver.com/2007/07/09/article-response-the-iphone-does-not-have-web-20-support/#comment-359 First of all, the term "web 2.0" doesn't mean anything in term of specific features or requirements. Which (I think) is your point. But the iPhone most certainly DOES support web 2.0 in my opinion, in that the fancy AJAX stuff we love on Gmail, Flickr, etc. works just fine. And this is the first mobile browser where that's ever been true. The only thing, web-wise, that the iPhone doesn't support is Flash and Java. Java is irrelevant, IMHO, and Flash is supposed to be coming. First of all, the term “web 2.0″ doesn’t mean anything in term of specific features or requirements. Which (I think) is your point.

But the iPhone most certainly DOES support web 2.0 in my opinion, in that the fancy AJAX stuff we love on Gmail, Flickr, etc. works just fine. And this is the first mobile browser where that’s ever been true.

The only thing, web-wise, that the iPhone doesn’t support is Flash and Java. Java is irrelevant, IMHO, and Flash is supposed to be coming.

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