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	<title>Comments on: T-Mobile vs. AT&#038;T, a Pre-Paid Mobile Smackdown!</title>
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		<title>By: Sai</title>
		<link>http://www.techcraver.com/2008/07/29/t-mobile-vs-att-a-pre-paid-mobile-smackdown/comment-page-1/#comment-1526</link>
		<dc:creator>Sai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 05:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah Tmobile is best. Check the tmobile website for latest offers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah Tmobile is best. Check the tmobile website for latest offers</p>
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		<title>By: Olivier Travers</title>
		<link>http://www.techcraver.com/2008/07/29/t-mobile-vs-att-a-pre-paid-mobile-smackdown/comment-page-1/#comment-1120</link>
		<dc:creator>Olivier Travers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 21:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AT&#38;T just wants to get more money out of PDA users. You'll find plenty of threads about it, including posts from AT&#38;T representatives: http://www.google.com/search?q=att+media+net+unlimited+pda

In other words, technically it works, but they might cut you off. I don't think that's going to stop me since I don't see any viable alternative at the moment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AT&amp;T just wants to get more money out of PDA users. You&#8217;ll find plenty of threads about it, including posts from AT&amp;T representatives: <a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=att+media+net+unlimited+pda" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/search?q=att+media+net+unlimited+pda</a></p>
<p>In other words, technically it works, but they might cut you off. I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s going to stop me since I don&#8217;t see any viable alternative at the moment.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Harris</title>
		<link>http://www.techcraver.com/2008/07/29/t-mobile-vs-att-a-pre-paid-mobile-smackdown/comment-page-1/#comment-1118</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 17:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Olivier,

I use AT&#038;T GoPhone Pick Your Plan and MEdia Net on my E71 with no problems at all.  It's just data, so I'm not sure where the issue lies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Olivier,</p>
<p>I use AT&#038;T GoPhone Pick Your Plan and MEdia Net on my E71 with no problems at all.  It&#8217;s just data, so I&#8217;m not sure where the issue lies.</p>
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		<title>By: Olivier Travers</title>
		<link>http://www.techcraver.com/2008/07/29/t-mobile-vs-att-a-pre-paid-mobile-smackdown/comment-page-1/#comment-1117</link>
		<dc:creator>Olivier Travers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 00:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Jason. After posting here I did further research and found about AT&#38;T's Media Net Unlimited option under their GoPhone offerings. However, their (really) fine print in their TOS states that you can't use Media Net with a PDA (which they define as a device with a full-fledged keyboard). They have a "PDA" data plan that doesn't even seem to be available as a GoPhone option. Lots of people apparently say "screw the TOS" and use Media Net with their iPhones or whatnot anyway, which looks like only viable option available to someone like me anyway. These carriers are really a bunch of scammers who only want to lock you in and charge you through the nose!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Jason. After posting here I did further research and found about AT&amp;T&#8217;s Media Net Unlimited option under their GoPhone offerings. However, their (really) fine print in their TOS states that you can&#8217;t use Media Net with a PDA (which they define as a device with a full-fledged keyboard). They have a &#8220;PDA&#8221; data plan that doesn&#8217;t even seem to be available as a GoPhone option. Lots of people apparently say &#8220;screw the TOS&#8221; and use Media Net with their iPhones or whatnot anyway, which looks like only viable option available to someone like me anyway. These carriers are really a bunch of scammers who only want to lock you in and charge you through the nose!</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Harris</title>
		<link>http://www.techcraver.com/2008/07/29/t-mobile-vs-att-a-pre-paid-mobile-smackdown/comment-page-1/#comment-1114</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Olivier,

The carriers are terrible about giving out good info on Pay as you go.

Here's what I know - if you go with an E71 or any GSM phone, your two choices are AT&#038;T and T-Mobile.

AT&#038;T and T-Mobile only allow unlimited data on their monthly plans.  That is, you pay X amount of dollars for Y amount of minutes, rather than being a certain cost per minute (such as $0.10/minute).  So, with your monthly plan you can buy an unlimited data plan.

As my post says-get the Pick Your Plan option.  It will give you 3.5G/3G (depending on the coverage in your geography).  Just sign up for a monthly plan and cancel it after a month or whenver you're done with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Olivier,</p>
<p>The carriers are terrible about giving out good info on Pay as you go.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s what I know - if you go with an E71 or any GSM phone, your two choices are AT&#038;T and T-Mobile.</p>
<p>AT&#038;T and T-Mobile only allow unlimited data on their monthly plans.  That is, you pay X amount of dollars for Y amount of minutes, rather than being a certain cost per minute (such as $0.10/minute).  So, with your monthly plan you can buy an unlimited data plan.</p>
<p>As my post says-get the Pick Your Plan option.  It will give you 3.5G/3G (depending on the coverage in your geography).  Just sign up for a monthly plan and cancel it after a month or whenver you&#8217;re done with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Olivier Travers</title>
		<link>http://www.techcraver.com/2008/07/29/t-mobile-vs-att-a-pre-paid-mobile-smackdown/comment-page-1/#comment-1104</link>
		<dc:creator>Olivier Travers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm considering buying an unlocked E71 to use as a world phone. However I find the information provided by US carriers about their pre-paid/PAYG offerings very limited, and it seems the big 4 (ATT, T-Online, Sprint and Verizon) have trouble with the whole BYOD concept. Maybe you can help me finding the right offering, if I may ask for help.

I currently live in Chile but go to the US 2-3x a year, Europe about once a year, might go to Brazil or Argentina for the occasional vacation. Are there US carriers (that work in New England where I most often go) that provide pay-as-you-go 3/3.5G service? I'm in the US less than a month a year so a contract doesn't make sense for me. I want to avoid roaming rip-offs and just swap SIMs as I move from country to country, as well as use Skype when I'll have wifi reception.

From what you wrote, looks like AT&#38;T doesn't provide 3+G data service on a PAYG basis? How do you get your email without an ongoing plan/contract? What about the other carriers? I'm just confused by their crappy web sites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m considering buying an unlocked E71 to use as a world phone. However I find the information provided by US carriers about their pre-paid/PAYG offerings very limited, and it seems the big 4 (ATT, T-Online, Sprint and Verizon) have trouble with the whole BYOD concept. Maybe you can help me finding the right offering, if I may ask for help.</p>
<p>I currently live in Chile but go to the US 2-3x a year, Europe about once a year, might go to Brazil or Argentina for the occasional vacation. Are there US carriers (that work in New England where I most often go) that provide pay-as-you-go 3/3.5G service? I&#8217;m in the US less than a month a year so a contract doesn&#8217;t make sense for me. I want to avoid roaming rip-offs and just swap SIMs as I move from country to country, as well as use Skype when I&#8217;ll have wifi reception.</p>
<p>From what you wrote, looks like AT&amp;T doesn&#8217;t provide 3+G data service on a PAYG basis? How do you get your email without an ongoing plan/contract? What about the other carriers? I&#8217;m just confused by their crappy web sites.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.techcraver.com/2008/07/29/t-mobile-vs-att-a-pre-paid-mobile-smackdown/comment-page-1/#comment-1071</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 19:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The unlimited data option is available on PayGo both the 25 cpm and $1 a day options.  They've also changed the $20 3,000 N/WK minutes option on the $1 a day option to unlimited.

Krogers iwireless beats the daily plans from both.

$30 a month gets free nights starting at 6pm free weekends and free inbound sms.

https://www.iwirelesshome.com/rates/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The unlimited data option is available on PayGo both the 25 cpm and $1 a day options.  They&#8217;ve also changed the $20 3,000 N/WK minutes option on the $1 a day option to unlimited.</p>
<p>Krogers iwireless beats the daily plans from both.</p>
<p>$30 a month gets free nights starting at 6pm free weekends and free inbound sms.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.iwirelesshome.com/rates/" rel="nofollow">https://www.iwirelesshome.com/rates/</a></p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 13:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately not quite - T-Mobile Flexpay blocks access to SMS shortcodes like twitter and google.

http://www.michaelrbeck.com/2008/06/t-mobile-flexpay-no-shortcodes.html
http://forums.cnet.com/5208-10152_102-0.html?forumID=97&#38;threadID=275736&#38;messageID=2653702
http://blog.bibleboy.org/2007/12/response-from-t-mobile.html?tw</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately not quite - T-Mobile Flexpay blocks access to SMS shortcodes like twitter and google.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.michaelrbeck.com/2008/06/t-mobile-flexpay-no-shortcodes.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.michaelrbeck.com/2008/06/t-mobile-flexpay-no-shortcodes.html</a><br />
<a href="http://forums.cnet.com/5208-10152_102-0.html?forumID=97&amp;threadID=275736&amp;messageID=2653702" rel="nofollow">http://forums.cnet.com/5208-10152_102-0.html?forumID=97&amp;threadID=275736&amp;messageID=2653702</a><br />
<a href="http://blog.bibleboy.org/2007/12/response-from-t-mobile.html?tw" rel="nofollow">http://blog.bibleboy.org/2007/12/response-from-t-mobile.html?tw</a></p>
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